Talk: OtterSurf

AFAIR, we never even get to see VT-211, Nyna just talks to it.--Gonzalo84 22:10, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

No worries, I figured that was the case. :) Jonjedigrandmaster 21:02, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

I think you are probably right, I don't recall them being in The New Rebellion either. I assume that the name "Ynian" is probably speculation based on the fact that Wwebyl's species is not identified in TNR. Nice catch. --Jinzler 15:32, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, no worries. It's a tricky line to decipher --- that is, what's trivial and what's not. You're doing a good job here; don't let this discourage you. :) Menkooroo 12:55, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

• You're absolutely right. That was... really weird. I've never noticed it before. I've gone ahead and changed it. Usually, to move a page, all you have to do is click "Move" (found at the top of the page), but in this case, the page Sanisteam already existed as a redirect to Sanistream. I just went and swapped the content of the pages (see here and here). Menkooroo 03:25, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

I merely flagged the image for deletion due to its nature. If you look at the delete logs, you'll see Xd deleted it. Just make sure you properly follow policy and the instructions on Special:Upload and you'll be fine. <-Omicron 19:48, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. Just let me know what the issue is, and I'll see if I can help. Menkooroo 19:02, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

• Hmmm. That sounds odd. I'm not really sure why it would do that. It might work if you try using the guided upload form instead of the basic --- on the image upload page, click "Switch to guided upload form" in the northeast corner. Fill out all of the mandatory fields and see if it'll work. If not, it might be worth asking an open question in the Senate Hall; that way some of our image experts might be able to help you out. Menkooroo 15:24, May 4, 2012 (UTC)
• I believe it's fifty edits to the main namespace (ie, articles themselves). It looks like you have that and then some; are you still having troubles? Menkooroo 22:19, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

Yep, the sourcing looks good to me. I did some formatting and categorizing, and it's good to go. :) Trak Nar 04:31, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

There was nothing wrong with including that, but it's not a required bit of information. I simply elected not to use it on this one. You didn't cause me any troubles. I was going to write up Servodriver myself, but would you like to take it to CA status? Have you written a status article yet? NaruHina 21:31, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

• Alright then, I'll be sure to look it over when you're finished. Try getting a statement from the authors about the HHGTG reference. Tell then at you're a Wookieepedian and that our rules require explicit statements (WP:ATT) and they may help you out. NaruHina 21:37, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, at the beginning of Chapter 53, Kolar is said to be one of the Jedi pursuing Greivous in starfighters. It just does not specify that it is a Delta. The page should be moved, not deleted. Now then, I am not an administrator and can't delete pages. If you suspect something of needing deletion, we have the Trash Compactor and {{Delete}}, the latter for when deletion is blatantly required. NaruHina 01:52, July 24, 2012 (UTC)

you do not sleep?is five hours--Ratchetjak (talk) 08:33, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, no worries. Thanks for creating the article; seems weird that we didn't have it until now. I added it to {{Yuuzhan Vong War}} too, so its "What links here" page should be beefed up quite a bit. :) Menkooroo (talk) 19:24, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

Simply put, the information is unnecessary. It's not worth noting in the BTS. Grand Moff Tranner 18:19, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

• I wouldn't call it a big flub, especially given information provided in more recent sources. The Essential Atlas notes, for example, that N'zoth falls into the Negs, a distinct region not included in the "traditional" Core that lies galactic east of the Deep Core. So there is nothing wrong with saying the Intimidator was transferred from the Core to N'zoth. Grand Moff Tranner 21:11, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

I added a little bit more information to the cite, but what you had probably would have been sufficient, I just like to be thorough.--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 18:23, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

• I wouldn't worry about getting a quote from Perry or Reaves. After you fix the rest of the objections on the nomination, I will look over the article again before I support.--Exiled Jedi(Greetings) 23:14, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

MLA stands for "Modern Language Association" and they have a standardized report format that's one of about three most people have to use—you'll see this more at a college. It has standardized ways to cite different types of sources that keeps things organized. MLA's not terribly complicated, but it can take some getting used to. You can read this primer to learn how to cite for a book. I suggest printing it out and finding a copy of HHGTTG to work with. Also, tell me when you've written out the citation so I can double-check it. NaruHina 21:36, August 31, 2012 (UTC)

Please look over EJ's objection's for your CAnom, as they have been there for over a week. Thanks, 501st 20:54, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

• I've had to archive the nom as a failure due to objections being unaddressed for over a week. Feel free to nom it again any time, as the artilce did not have much else to fix. 501st 21:24, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, Otter. To answer your question, I honestly do not know where that information came from or whether it's legitimate. You would have to check through all of the appearances and sources listed in the article to confirm. It looks like you've done a pretty solid job of expanding the article. Nice job overall. Let me know if you have any specific questions regarding your work. Thanks. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:15, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

• Sounds good. Nice job. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:53, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Hi OtterSurf. Your change was reverted because there is nothing wrong with the image. It displays fine for me in Firefox and in Safari through an iPad. After discussing it with Toprawa (who authored the article) over IRC who also saw no reason for the image change, it was reverted back since the current image was the best image available. Of course, Wikia image servers are a little screwy at times, so it may be a caching issue on your end. I would suggest purging your cache and refreshing your browser just in case. Hope that helps -Cavalier One 10:06, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hey OtterSurf! Tahnks for correcting my mistakes in the Ob Khaddor article! I must confess I had a darn good laugh when I checked the recent changes you made: I initially did write "from Alderaan, a planet blah blah blah", but "blah blah blah" was meant to be just a placeholder to be replaced by a descriptive sentence. Seems like I forgot to replace it after all! Mesa so clumsy. xD --LelalMekha (talk) 19:58, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Haha, no worries. I didn't even check to see who had changed it. There was a discussion over here about how acceptable it is to put jokes like that into Featured articles, and since that joke was in there while Ric was an FA, I changed it back to the joke so that I could show it off as a precedent. I won't lose any sleep if it's eventually changed back to the no-joke. :) Menkooroo (talk) 23:55, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

Hiya. The sound files in Racer Revenge are compressed .VAG files, which are PlayStation specific audio compression files. Not impossible to open, but the best tool for them will require some fiddling on my part. However, and this is more of a hunch, Zanales, voiced by Jim Ward and who also provides Mars Guo's voice for both Racer Revenge and it's predecessor, likely reuses the other set of voice lines Ward previously recorded for Episode I Racer for Fud Sang. I'll work on the VAG files to try and get audible sounds (I have to manually adjust the settings such as bitrate to make the VAG files sound right) and export them for use for you. --Clonehunter 01:11, December 3, 2018 (UTC)

• Just an update. I haven't found the right bitrate/sampling/interleave/offset combo as of yet, and programs to work with the files are few. I can get them to a level that's nigh intelligible, but the pitch is hard to get right. They wouldn't work well for sound samples. I also can't quite match them up to the Fud Sang voice files, namely because of the speed and pitch. Can always attempt to record some right off the game itself, though. Probably with video/audio recorder (Like FRAPS maybe) and a PS2 emulator. I believe I still have one installed if you don't. --Clonehunter 00:41, December 14, 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Could I bother you to come over onto IRC? Imperators II 20:13, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

• Alright, there's just something I'd like to discuss re:Garth Breise article with you on there. Imperators II 21:17, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

While all good-faith contributions to Wookieepedia are appreciated, we ask that you please refer to Wookieepedia:Images, which can be found under the "other policies and guidelines" link in your welcome message, and familiarize yourself with the sourcing and licensing requirements before uploading any more images. The only uploading method supported by Wookieepedia, Special:Upload, will prompt you to enter this information. Wikia's non-standard upload forms are not supported under Wookieepedia policy, and ignorance of the uploading rules is not an acceptable excuse. Continued violation of the image policy or falsification of any information in an upload description are considered vandalism and will likely result in a block. Thank you. Tommy Macaroni 10:50, February 24, 2019 (UTC)

Hey Otter, when you upload a new version of an image, you don't need a new file name. Just press the "replace" button at the top of the old file page and it'll update the image while keeping the old name. This is useful so you don't have to change any links to the image in articles and admins don't have to delete the old file. Thanks, Tommy Macaroni 16:48, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

I'm leaving this message on your talk page to inform you of this. Please respond either on that review page or on my talk page with what time you would like to meet on IRC. Thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:15, May 4, 2019 (UTC)

OtterSurf, I am issuing you a formal administrative warning for failure to properly attribute your additions to Wookieepedia articles with verifiable sources. This is directly in regard to your attempts at Good article nominations, with Syboona being the last straw. This is the third time now that the AgriCorps has caught you trying to pass off sourced information in an article, only to later admit that you don't actually have access to a given source to verify the accuracy of that information. Simply put, this is not acceptable in any situation, and it would be no different from someone deliberately adding false referencing without access to a source. The next time you are caught doing this, I will issue you a block from editing. And I would strongly think twice about nominating any additional articles for status in the future under these circumstances. If you don't have a particular source and try to pull this again, the reviewing bodies will find you out; that's their job. It's my personal recommendation to you that you don't try to nominate another article unless you have full access to every source listed therein. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:59, August 16, 2019 (UTC)

Hi OtterSurf! Is it possible for you to come on IRC? It would save both you and the reviewers of your status article nominations a ton of time. Cheers, Imperators II 19:34, August 17, 2019 (UTC)

Sure, I'll take care of it. Though, I would personally recommend you to nominate the article after your ongoing nominations are done. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 19:01, August 24, 2019 (UTC)

• Sure, no problem. FYI, I have changed the quote for Characteristics, as this new one looks more relevant to that section, in my opinion. If you'd like to revert it, I have also uploaded an audio file for the old quote here, so you can use that if you want. (talk) 02:11, August 29, 2019 (UTC)

Hello Ottersurf. I'd appreciate it if you'd respond to my question on your latest nomination. Thanks. Fan26 () 13:59, August 29, 2019 (UTC)

Hello OtterSurf! I'm sorry to tell you this, but is where all those system articles should actually be in. I suggest that, instead of spamming the Recent Changes with reverts of your prior edits, you leave a request here for a user with access to a bot to fix all the instances of the newly-created category to the old one. Imperators II 18:39, September 13, 2019 (UTC)

In general, please make a greater effort to make multiple changes in fewer edits to an article. It's extremely unnecessary what you're doing right now to Leyli, where you're making 50+ edits in the span of twelve hours. At worst, it clogs up an article's edit history and makes it very difficult for reviewers to go through and exam different changes with respect to their objections, etc. Thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:49, September 20, 2019 (UTC)

• I'm going to ask you again to please stop doing this. There is absolutely no reason that you need to make so many individual edits, which at worst makes it that much more difficult for people to review your articles and examine relevant changes. Make your changes in single edits. Use the preview button. That's precisely why it's there. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:22, October 3, 2019 (UTC)

Done! Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 20:10, January 12, 2020 (UTC)

Hi OtterSurf. Just wanted to remind you that every category you create, whether it be one for articles or images, should itself be categorized. I've categorized the one you created for you. Hope this helps, Imperators II 09:45, January 26, 2020 (UTC)

I thought you reverted my contribution. Sorry about that. --Erebus Chronus (talk) 14:39, February 6, 2020 (UTC)

Done. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 03:33, March 3, 2020 (UTC)

Otter, consider this your official administrative warning for mass editing pages. This sort of thing should not be happening; it clogs up the recent changes and is completely unnecessary. You should use the preview buttons before saving. A couple of changes is fine as we all forget things, but dozens of changes to one page is completely unneeded, and it only harms the site by complicating matters for those patrolling the RC to revert vandalism. As you have been warned for this before, I'm officially warning you that this falls under disruption, and you will be blocked if you continue. Thank you for your cooperation. Tommy Macaroni 21:41, March 16, 2020 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for 3 days. My last warning told you you would be blocked next time. Your mass edits on Ginder are an issue and you will continue to be blocked if you continue to edit in this way. It clogs up the recent changes and is completely unnecessary. You should use the preview buttons before saving. To contest this block, please contact the blocking administrator with the reason you believe the block is unjustified. Tommy Macaroni 11:50, March 29, 2020 (UTC)

So, the category you created once again had no categories on it, so I had to add them for you. This is the third time you've done this, despite being told about this. Dammit, OtterSurf, why do other editors have to keep cleaning up the mess you leave? Imperators II 08:02, April 13, 2020 (UTC)

Hello. Please refrain from making any such comments in the future, for that is a violation of our Civility policy. Thank you. Imperators II 07:26, May 8, 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I'm reaching out to you on behalf of the AgriCorps. You're receiving this message because you have nominated at least one GAN this year while reviewing fewer than two GANs per each of your nominations. As you know, the GAN is a community project that can only operate when Wookieepedians both nominate and review articles. We therefore encourage you to review more GANs. Not only is this an act of giving back to the community, but reviewing others' articles is the best way to improve your own article writing as well. We look forward to seeing more reviews from you! Cheers, 1358 (Talk) 19:59, May 16, 2020 (UTC)

• Per this comment, please provide more quotes to the article if possible. TommyMacaroni 21:04, May 17, 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Otter. On our Blocking policy, disruption is listed as the second ground for blocking: "Behavior that damages Wookieepedia and its community." Now, the review bodies have been patient with you. As with all other new writers, it is these bodies' job to bring your articles up to acceptable standards. We appreciate that many new users are unfamiliar with both general formal writing rules and the specific rules of Wookieepedia, and so we try to take it in our stride to teach these new users these skills, so that future nominations they produce are higher in standard. However, there comes a point where a user can no longer be considered new to this process, but rather a deliberate detriment to it. You have been on this site since 2010, thus having had a decade to observe basic formatting practices, and you've been nominating articles since 2018. You have had two years of the EC and AC spending dozens of combined hours volunteering to look over your articles, both copy-editing them and writing paragraphs on nomination pages to explain how you can improve them. Now, of course, we understand that mistakes will always be made. Even an Inq's nominated article will rarely be flawless. However, you have reached a point where we (specifically the AC and the wider administration) have come to see your nominations as deliberate disruption. Despite these hours of time we've spent trying to help you improve your nominations, for lack of a better phrase, you just do not seem to learn.

F'quallix has consolidated this. When nominated, it had redirects, no BTS, no {{1stm}} or anything, references in the intro, et cetera, et cetera. Normally, it's expected that before nominating an article, you have a preliminary look over it, just to make sure it's worth getting people to spend their free time looking over. I personally like to wait a day after finishing writing an article to look over it with fresh eyes the next morning before nominating it. So, you nominating an article that could have just had its redirect fixed with a second-long glance with is unacceptable, and shows how little respect you have for the people reviewing your nominations. Not only do you repeatedly fail to implement the objections on your articles into future projects, you also seem to not even read over them before nominating. Also, do you really think renominating an article just removed for blatant lack of effort is acceptable? I don't. Furthermore, it is the opinion of some members of the AC you are deliberately doing this to waste our time, by making us look over deliberately flawed articles. Regardless of whether that's true, or if you've just decided to pay ridiculously low levels of attention to your articles, it is stopping, one way or another. If you continue to waste the time of any review board by nominating articles riddled with flaws you know are there, you will be blocked, under the disruption clause. Like I said, I don't know if it's your intention to waste our time, but right now you are, and it's going to stop.

This is your first and only warning on this. Put some effort and attention into the articles you nominate, look over past objections, heck, I even made this to list common objections. Every single other person nominating articles at the moment doesn't have trouble with this. They learn from previous nominations and bring that knowledge to future projects. They look over articles before nominating them. They value the time people spend reviewing their articles and so do not waste it nominating half-hearted attempts. You are the only one disrespecting us like this. And this isn't just my option. This is shared with the other 5 ACs currently on IRC right now. So the choice is yours: put effort into your nominations, or be blocked. TommyMacaroni 19:29, May 22, 2020 (UTC)

• Hello, Otter. Thank you for responding. First and foremost, I appreciate that it isn't your intention to disrupt this wiki; however, I think you have to admit that some of your actions here have been disruptive, and have wasted people's time. Second, I agree that you've learned much from your time nominating articles here, the issue is more that this knowledge is often not put into practice when nominating new articles. From the rest of your message I hope you'll be taking my words onboard and using the information given to you more thoroughly. In response to your explanation for F'quallix, I'm sorry but if you weren't thinking straight when writing it, you should not have nominated that article. In nominating an article you are asking people to spend their free time looking over your work, and that should not be taken lightly by presenting half-baked efforts. While it is our duty to look over these articles, we expect our time to be respected by not being asked to look over articles with little effort put into them.

Otter, I've deleted your most recent upload as it had no copyright template. This is prompted in the upload form, and is absolutely essential when uploading images so this site doesn't receive any copyright takedowns. Any other images you upload that fail to follow our image policy will be deleted, and if this persists, you will be blocked. Thank you for your cooperation. TommyMacaroni 10:33, June 15, 2020 (UTC)

• Otter, I have no idea what you're doing but it's going to stop. That image had no copyright, no source, no categories, nothing. It is all in the upload form, you have no excuse for these blank files. If this happens again, I will block you, you have no excuse to be uploading these with such a blatant lack of effort. TommyMacaroni 10:48, June 15, 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, no such luck - for the foreseeable future I myself only have access to a low-resolution version of that specific map. Imperators II 15:10, June 16, 2020 (UTC)

Please make sure to provide a Bibliography or External links section for every out-of-universe page you create in the future (e.g. ). See the OOU policy for more information. UberSoldat93 (talk) 11:29, August 22, 2020 (UTC)

• Please keep in mind that articles of that type may get merged in the future into the article about the actual person. Until a final decision is made in a CT, it is best to direct your efforts elsewhere. 12:10, September 11, 2020 (UTC)

Hi Otter, the page you just created currently has no Bibliography or External links. Is there anything you can include in there, like an Amazon listing? UberSoldat93 (talk) 13:45, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Otter, when you vote on a nomination, it shows that you have reviewed the article being nominated and are satisfied with the current state of the content within it. Voting on every nomination you see without reviewing is not beneficial to the nominators, who may believe that you have indeed reviewed their articles. UberSoldat93 (talk) 10:38, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for having a poor and combative attitude and falsifying article reviews. To contest this block, please contact the blocking administrator with the reason you believe the block is unjustified. MasterFred(talk) 01:53, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

NBDani 13:42, 27 January 2023 (UTC)