Talk: Timeline of Legends media

I don't see any Clone Wars era games mentioned. (The Clone Wars, Republic Commando, The New Droid Army, etc.) I'd put them in myself, but I don't know where exactly they go. 24.3.190.91 19:39, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

• Nor do I see any of the X-Wing Rogue Squadron graphic novels or Dark Empire. Is this page new? Guess someone's got a lot of work to do! 24.3.190.91 21:20, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm finding conflicting information about the order of the Clone Wars novels and Short Stories. For example, this page says that Republic Commando: True Colors takes place in 20 BBY, while this page says that it happens in 21 BBY. The page about that book says 21 BBY. That is just an example, there are several others. 70.49.168.54 20:12, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I believe it starts in the year 21 BBY, but finishes in 20 BBY. It depends on whether the placement is based on the start or the end of the novel. 193.113.57.161 13:43, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Skip that acording to http://www.timelineuniverse.com/History.htm it ends in the last month of 21 BBY. (193.113.57.163 17:36, 1 October 2008 (UTC))

• It should perhaps be noted that the TimelineUniverse website you mention is NOT officially endorsed by Lucasfilm and should therefore not be treated as determining canon. Thanks :) -Kev-La Ttolya 12:24, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
• Also, some items are listed where their story ends, or even slightly later, rather than where they begin. This is so that fans can watch/read/play etc. an item from this list without fear of it spoiling events detailed in an item listed at a later point. For example, the entry for a comics story-arc that begins before Episode III but covers some of the events of that movie might be placed after Episode III's entry. -Kev-La Ttolya 04:35, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• Just watched the start of season two of the Clone wars series. The related comic "The Clone Wars: Act on Instinct" should be placed between episodes 1 and 2 (double episode).

Someone needs to add Prototypes to the timeline I would but I do not know what year it takes place in.Bao-Dur's clone 21:16, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Never mind by accident I did not notice that Prototypes page says when it takes place so I added it to the timeline.Bao-Dur's clone 17:54, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Added Knights of the Old Republic: Opportunities to 3957 BBY. Hope that's ok. 193.113.57.161 11:20, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Also added Millennium Falcon Novel, Jedi vs Sith Essential Guide (as written from in universe perspective) and Emmissary of the Void. Rule of Two moved as most it happens after Jedi vs Sith/ Bane of the Sith. 193.113.57.161 11:25, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

A few things:

• One, the bit in the Clone Wars needs sorting out, where Anakin gets knighted. Someone has put the Jedi council meeting early in the war, but said he gets knighted near the end. ( Clone Wars Chapter 21) He gets knighted because Greivious took out a load of jedi on Hypori, so why have it later
• And two, exactly after A New Hope needs sorting out. There's Star Wars Missions there that carry straight on from the film, but they're not there on the list; they're further down. Plus the Holiday Special is missing. Pulse003 08:23, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Since there are quite a few of them, I think it would be desirable to add something like "Clone Wars Adventures: ..." in front of the episode titles. That way, anyone not interested in that particular series could easily skip the episodes without having to visit the single articles. Or are there specific reasons why it hans't already been done? 84.57.7.37 21:03, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

• I believe I'm correct in stating that the reason this has not been done is simply that it would mean that practically every entry in the list would then need a similar note stating which series of books/comics/games/TV shows it belonged to. Such notes are only added in order to provide necessary disambiguation (such as in the case of two sources with identical titles). Considering that one needs only to click on an entry to discover whether or not it is a Clone Wars Adventure, I think users will cope without notes specifying this on this page -Kev-La Ttolya 14:01, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

The 2D TV series "Clone Wars" has been broken down into chapters and the chapters are individually inserted accordingly into the timeline. However, this is not done so for episodes of the 3D TV series "The Clone Wars". In fact, I don't see mention of the TV series (only the game, the film, and the novelization). I believe the "The Clone Wars" occur between chapters of "Clone Wars". May I clarify that this information is only missing because season 1 just ended and someone is working on (and is not yet done) inserting the episodes into the timeline? I hope this is indeed a planned work in progress, and not that it's not needed to be done. If nobody's working on it, I will gladly do so when I have the time. --Secretss 07:04, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• The problem with doing that is that there is no cohesive timeline set up for that yet. Furthermore, The Clone Wars will most likely change the dates of MANY of the previous books/comics. So it's probably better to simply put a "Two Conflicting Timelines" warning at the top and put a note saying all material related to The Clone Wars series is waiting for a cohesive timeline to be written by LFL. Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith 12:57, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

I think there are too many types of media for individual things. Take The Phantom Menace for example:

All I want is the first one in that list. That way we don't have movie, junior, comic, game altogether. It looks stupid and I think it would look better if we had just the first one. It covers all the subsequent ones. If an adventure takes place during a preceding one ( take the journal for example), we should put somewhere that it takes place in it. Otherwise people might think it takes place after.

There is a lot of crap on this page and I would like responsibility for sorting it out. I created this page in the first place. Pulse003 18:43, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Just starting a list of some sources I see are missing from this master list, that I don't know the exact placement of. Feel free to add to the list or add these to the actual timeline, if you know the correct placement. —Xwing328 22:45, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

• Boba Fett: Agent of Doom (also supposedly 11 ABY, sometime after Kenix Kil)

There are two sets of classic Star wars comics, one set was originally done by marvel and the other was originally done by Archie Goodwin. Does anyone know about the canonity of these series. Should they be included in this list? Wyken0 04:29, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

The eBook, Lost Tribe of the Sith: Purgatory, is missing from the list. squingynaut 18:54, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

I have noticed that some (maybe all, I didn't check) of the Star Wars: Tales comics are color-coded as short stories rather than comics. Is this a mistake or was there some decision to do this? While I can understand that since they are mostly one-shot, they could be considered short stories, but I think that they would be more appropriately listed as comics. I'll gladly change them, but I just want to make sure that I'm not going against a previously made decision. DarthDragon164 18:51, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't the first six issues of Star Wars: Republic take place before Cloak of Deception? 10.7.10.169 19:44, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

It's all well and good to date the CGI series as ca. 21 BBY, but how in the heck is it that this page has exact months for each episode? To my knowledge, that hasn't been determined by Licensing/Chee yet so how can that possibly be on this page? DigiFluid 19:51, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

So, how best to proceed then? Should we be removing them outright, or just arbitrarily picking a spot to put them in temporarily until we have something clearer than the nebulous "ca. 21 BBY"? DigiFluid 20:35, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Why aren't included here the video games Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds, its expansion, Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds: Clone Campaigns, and Star Wars: Galaxies? They are included on the timeline of video games.----Skenar 17:43, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

• Also, which is correct? Here it says that part 1 of The Old Republic: Revan is set on 3,956 BBY, and part 2 on 3,951 BBY. But on the article of the novel, it says part 1 is set on 3,954 BBY, and part 2 on 3,950 BBY. So what is correct?----Skenar 11:25, March 28, 2012 (UTC)
• Another thing: here it says that Lost Tribe of the Sith: Pantheon and Lost Tribe of the Sith: Secrets are set on 3,000 BBY, but on the article of Pantheon it says 3,650 BBY, and on the list of books it says that both books are set on 3,650 BBY. So, which is correct?----Skenar 11:30, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Shouldn't these be included here? If so, should a new media type be created? Muscle6386 15:28, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

• That's actually an interesting idea. I guess in a strict sense, they are media. I'd say go for it if you want.

Quite frankly, I hate this new series. I believe that it's destroying all continuity in the timeline. On here, the Clone Wars area is so incredibly disorganized due to the new series. I propose that we eliminate the new Clone Wars media from this page until this timeline-ravaging storm subsides and we can piece all this crap together. In the meantime, we will create a new page exclusively for Clone Wars media. On that page, we can work with sorting the new Clone Wars media as it comes out. As it is, this page is just a MESS. My proposal will clean up this mess, and delegate it to another page where it can be dealt with separately for now. I feel it will improve the accuracy of the site. If there are no replies to this in one week, I will do this myself. --EwokSithLord 21:32, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

• I agree, I hate this new series too. TCW material isn't needed until the new official timeline is established. Zeta1127 of the 89th Legion (talk) 21:41, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
• I've created a test for the Timeline of Clone Wars media page in the Jundland Wastes. I want to wait a week before doing all this just so I don't piss anybody off. People deserve fair warning. I've already got the edits prepared in a Word document. Once a week has gone by, they'll be done before you can blink. EwokSithLord 00:00, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

The core of the issue here is that I can easily produce official sources for a lot of the items. With the new Clone Wars series, those official sources don't line up. Because we have no official timeline that includes the new Clone Wars media, is it right to have them on this page? By my interpretation, any placement of new Clone Wars media on this timeline would be considered speculation. However, I think for sake of keeping Wookieepedia up to date, a record of them should be kept somewhere despite the limited information about the order. What should be done? --EwokSithLord 03:14, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Cade has the crux of it. The show is canon, full stop, so it needs to stay on this article. But until we have an officially-sanctioned timeline, the 'c. 21 BBY' is how it has to stay. It's unfortunate, but as the show is heading into its fifth season, it's hardly a new issue. It's already spelt out in the article that we don't have an exact placement for the episodes, so there really isn't any need to adjust them until we're provided with a new canon timeline.

TL;DR: It's the status quo for a reason, leave it alone. — DigiFluid 20:16, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

• Be careful when you say TL;DR for one person and then go and support your friend. If my objectivity is going to be brought into question here, then make sure yours can't. Perceived hypocrisy is the source of many stupid conflicts. Make sure your view isn't limited to what you want to see.—Eшσҡ$їтӈ Lōяƌ 21:58, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
• What about the statement by Dave Filoni from Star Wars Insider 134, where he basically says TCW isn't in the same universe as the printed EU? Zeta1127 of the 89th Legion (talk) 22:08, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

Alright. Reluctantly, I'll accept your argument. The messy look still kind of bothers me though. Should we at least group all the new Clone Wars media together? I'm trying to think of a way to keep it, but still give users something solid. I mean, the dates are all over the place. It goes 4, 5, 6, 7.5, 5, 14, 15, 16, 6, 16, 17, 16, 17, 18, 11, 13, 6, 9 (ABG). To a user, that's like "WTF?" We could group the new media, and basically put the other stuff in order around it. That would at least maintain a professional look. What do you think? —Eшσҡ $їтӈ Lōяƌ 21:58, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

I read an unsigned comment on another talk page made by a colorblind person. As I was working with colors, I began to think about it more. These colors probably make it hard for them to read the page (I'm not colorblind, so I don't know). I have an idea, and I have a feeling you're not gonna like it. Colorblindness affects 8% of males. You can read more about it here. I'm not suggesting that we remove the colors from this page. A rather out of place yet fitting quote would be "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one." We should keep the colors on this page, but perhaps we could create a second page mirroring this one but with the colors removed. I know it might be a pain to do, but shouldn't we make the site friendly for everyone who enjoys Star Wars? If nothing else, it will be a more printer-friendly page. —Eшσҡ $їтӈ Lōяƌ 03:51, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

I was wondering why the Clone Wars Gambit novels Stealth and Siege are not on the Timeline of Media. This has been bugging me for a few years now.(--64.252.114.231 01:54, July 27, 2012 (UTC))

So when is Scourge? I see it says 19 ABY, the same year as the Hand of Thrawn Duology. When is it in relation to that? --Darth R2-D2, Dark Lord of the Droids (talk) 15:12, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

It happens after Into the Void.

Just because it is included in the book AFTER the events of the book, doesn't mean that it happens after. In the final paragraphs of Eruption, Lanoree Brock tells Hawk Ryo that she has been called to Tython for the mission she embarks on in Into The Void.--ExarKunLives (talk) 01:30, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

So what if the two timlines are treated like parallel universes? You can name them different, but like a Lucasverse and the new Disneyverse (which is the new official one). This way people like me who just started going down the expanded universe can still see where they would have been placed in the old timeline. Source: http://starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page.html Tivis014 () 05:29, April 26, 2014 (UTC)

• My thought is that we'll copy this page to a "Legends" timeline page where all the old continuity can be kept. Then the films, TCW and new material would be tracked on this page. At the moment, we don't have enough information to do anything, and the new stuff is still several months away anyways. Tainb'ocu'chulainn (talk) 18:46, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

With the removal of all previous comic books, game books, video games and promotional material, the color scheme for media types really needs an update. Films, novels, short stories, and TV episodes are all shades of blue, which makes it difficult to distinguish between them while scrolling. I'd appreciate it if someone with better color taste than I could come up with a better palette. I was thinking that films could be based on the color of the opening scrawls to help them pop out from the list better. Perhaps TV episodes could be the color of "In a galaxy far, far away..." text. Tainb'ocu'chulainn (talk) 16:01, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

• The current color scheme is based on the Microsoft Excel standard palette, which is fairly nice (and well-thought out by some qualified designer somewhere). That being said, I agree that the films should likely stand out more. See my proposal for the film color here. The colors could use some re-shuffling, at any rate, but overall I think the Excel colors are very nice. --Imperialles 16:38, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

Would Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir be on this timeline. Or is it exclusively on the canon timeline like Rebels and the new novels? --Darth R2-D2, Dark Lord of the Droids (talk) 14:12, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

• The explicitly canon ones like Son of Dathomir would only go on the Canon timeline. Cheers, Corellian Premier 19:05, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

NOTE: This discussion originated from User_talk:Richterbelmont10#Timeline_of_Legends_media

Good work on the sourcing of the Timeline of Legends media. I did have a couple issues with your edits. The Timeline of Legends media is in a slightly different structure than the Essential Reading Companion. In the ERC, Hidalgo favors putting long-spanning books at the end of their chronology, but the general rule for the timeline is wherever Chapter 1 starts. So any "flashbacks" within a story do not change the timeline placement, but if a novel is a flashback, as in the case of The Wrath of Darth Maul where the Prologue introduces the flashback, then it is placed at the start of Chapter 1 (51 BBY) and not at the start of the Prologue (21 BBY). So the original placement was correct, 51 BBY-c. 21 BBY. Epilogues are also ignored for the purposes of the date ranges. Also, note that sometimes you are changing dates based on the ERC, but the subtext and reference for The Essential Chronology are still there, and those dates conflict. See the Han Solo and Lando Calrissian trilogies. Lastly, the ERC does not use half years, so while 0 ABY is an accurate date for first few Galaxy of Fear books, 0.5 ABY is more precise and preferable, especially due to the glut of media that is set in 0 ABY. See also Shadows of the Empire. Tainb'ocu'chulainn (talk) 15:46, July 21, 2014 (UTC)

• I'll move The Wrath of Darth Maul back to 51 BBY-c. 21 BBY but I won't source it, since the ERC presents it otherwise. I'll take a look at The Essential Chronology and try to resolve the conflicting dates. I'll see what I can do about the half-year notation while staying as faithful as possible to the way it's presented in the source. Also note that I've changed some dates without actually moving them to the correct place in the timeline table. I planned to finish sourcing first and then sort the table properly afterwards.--Richterbelmont10 17:46, July 21, 2014 (UTC)

• I sorted the list by date first, and then by its placement in The Essential Reader's Companion (when the date was the same). In some instances I didn't touch the sorting order because there were some notes about the publication that I found confusing. It's very difficult to sort everything accurately as there is conflicting information in some cases.

--Richterbelmont10 22:13, July 23, 2014 (UTC)

• I had never heard of the "Book-and-records" before, but they look to be aimed at children, which is not under the scope of this Timeline. The Saga Begins and The Saga Nears Its End could be added. They are sort of contained within The DarkStryder Campaign in 8 ABY. Tainb'ocu'chulainn (talk) 14:54, July 25, 2014 (UTC)

Could someone change the years for this from "3996 BBY" to "3996 BBY - 3994 BBY"? In the last issue, the last couple of pages skip two years forward. Thanks! --LoLuX12 (talk) 23:34, March 6, 2016 (UTC)

Should this be on the page? It looks more like a reference comic than an actual comic to me. --LoLuX12 (talk) 23:53, March 6, 2016 (UTC)

It's referred to as a "preview issue" on its page, so I'm guessing that there's a story there. Plus, Legacy 0 and 01/2 are on the timeline, and they are reference/guide titles as well. --The Ultimate Dude (talk) 02:26, March 7, 2016 (UTC)

• Well, the comic just contains information about the Tho Yor, but has no actual story. The same can be said for Legacy 0 and 1/2. For now, if it's okay, I'll remove Dawn of the Jedi #0, Legacy #0 and Legacy 1/2 and we'll see how that goes. Does that sound good? --LoLuX12 (talk) 01:42, March 7, 2016 (UTC)

After looking at the "Timeline of Canon Media," I couldn't help but wish that this timeline had a similar "Release Date" column. I personally like to consume media in the order it was released (to avoid spoilers and such).

In addition, I propose that we remove the "Era" divisions in the table. That way, you would be able to sort the entire list by release date.

• This is a good idea, but it's going to take a lot of work and real dedication to change this whole timeline. If you want to read the timeline in order of publication, I recommend using List of Star Wars media. It isn't perfect and is certainly not complete, but people such as myself spend a lot of time to try and make it as perfect as possible. It even has a couple of Legends comics that aren't on this timeline :) --LoLuX12 (talk) 22:24, March 9, 2016 (UTC)

• I have added this column to all the tables. Of the 1,827 entries, I used List of Star Wars media for 899 entries, dates in infoboxes and opening paragraphs for 593 entries, dates of parent publications for 190 entries (e.g., short stories), the first issue of each comic story arc for 62 entries, and manually researched the remaining entries I couldn't automate. I haven't yet assessed the error rate of my code or rigorously double-checked the dates. Contactlight (talk) 07:33, May 7, 2017 (UTC)

I have moved the MedStar story from the beginig of the clone wars to between Star Wars: The Clone wars Season 3 episode 9 and 10. Becuse Barris Offee stil a padawan under the second battle of Geonosis.

Hello. Could we move Star Wars: Obsession in Timeline of Legends media from the end of the clone wars to between Star Wars: Republic: Dreadnaughts of Rendili and The Brink story from Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Volume 4. Because Padme ses Anakin's scar for the first time. I now Count Dooku betrayder Asajj Ventress, but we could say, Dooku not betrayed her. -- User: Noam N. J. (talk)

• I'm sorry, I don't fully understand, could you try to explain again? --LoLuX12 (talk) 21:21, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

I didn't see the purpose of the edits. MedStar (the novel which was moved) and its short stories were already at the place they were supposed to be, as far as I know. Anyone is welcome to tell me why they are supposed to be moved, but until then, I've undone them :) --LoLuX12 (talk) 21:35, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

• But Barris Offee becomes a jedi in the MedStar Healer and she is only a padawan in the start of the clone wars series. Is unknown if she still a padawn in Season 3.-- User: Noam N. J. (talk)

Would anyone mind if I removed those two titles from the timeline? As far as I know, none of them have any story (or at least Galactic Strongholds doesn't) to tell. And it's not like they'll be removed completely, since The Old Republic's description on the timeline already tells about the Game Updates. --LoLuX12 (talk) 20:18, April 8, 2016 (UTC)

• If they don't have a storyline, then they should indeed be removed.The Ultimate Dude (talk) 03:29, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

I was thinking about separating the adult novels from the Yong Reader novels. If one wants to see the novels, they don't expect the YR novels to be among them. Chris358 (Integrate, Mechtavius Destroyer!) 21:48, June 21, 2017 (UTC)

This is a fantastic resource, which I've been using to create a spreadsheet so I can track how much Legends material I have read/viewed, but it appears inconsistent with other timelines. For instance, the separate timeline of Legends Videogames page includes X-Wing Rogue Squadron, which does have a story, and is not included here (despite a previous message on this board over ten years ago noting this).

I am a new user here so did not want to edit without clarification - is there a reason this and similar items have not been added? Presumably it would be relatively simple to add in media from other Legends lists pages, or to combine them all into one page with show/hide as this list does for different types of media?Stuaker (talk) 04:09, July 25, 2018 (UTC)

Why is the majority of TCW placed in 21 BBY? That makes no sense. Despite what the original Annual said (which was only referring to Seasons 1 and 2), The Essential Reader's Companion says that TCW (at least up to Defenders of Peace or Trespass) is in 22 BBY. The chronological order of TCW doesn't give an indication as to the years it is placed, so why is that used as a source? SenatorConfer (talk) 11:50, July 29, 2018 (UTC)

• The original thinking behind it was when the series starts, Anakin is already a Knight and is given a padawan. In the Legends timeline, Anakin doesn't get knighted until well into the clone wars, following the events of Jedi Trial. Because of that, most of the series was marked at 21 bby since it would have had to occur after that point. However, since the legends timeline was rendered obsolete in favor of the new Disney timeline where Anakin is knighted shortly after the start of the war, TCW timeline doesn't fit in on this page. I rationalize it in my own head canon by doubling the length of the clone wars by having the legends stuff happen first, then all the new things after. In the scope of this page though, there really isn't a good way to fix it so it will just stay as it is. Tmanarl (talk) 16:05, December 10, 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately I don't have time to fix this myself right now, but several 32-33 BBY entries are clearly in the wrong order. Maul: Lockdown is very clear about taking place after the Eriadu summit, which is near the end of Cloak of Deception (the "33 BBY" date cited for it is also used, imprecisely, for Cloak of Deception and Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter in the official timeline at the beginning of the book). And Darth Plagueis establishes that the Darth Maul comic miniseries takes place between the Eriadu Summit and the events of Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter. RainbowDroideka (talk) 16:52, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

you should include son of dathomir its part of legends

I notice that "Anakin in Action" is listed here, but "Yoda in Action" isn't. They both seem to be from the same series, released around the same time. I haven't tried to audit additional young reader titles, but I'm curious if anyone has any insight on why one would be included and the other not? Thanks! Drokkon (talk) 07:50, 29 June 2022 (UTC)